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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; MILITARY RECRUITERS UNDER FIRE</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/02/21/supporting-while-opposing/comment-page-1/#comment-224212</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; MILITARY RECRUITERS UNDER FIRE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/02/21/supporting-while-opposing/comment-page-1/#comment-2946</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2005 02:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the US were to assure the Iraqis that Iraqi resources

and industries belonged to Iraqi&#039;s it would go a ways to 

quieting things down. We  are still sticking to the plan of 

some laisez faire capitalist paradise. No Iraqi political

leader, besides some American whore, can accept that 

concept. Just as difficult ,after our behavior, would be 

the concept of US military bases.

You&#039;re correct the Iraqis want safety. They want to go to 

the store not worrying about being kidnapper or blown up.

They want electricity and water. They want their jobs. 

Things they had pre-invasion.

 They don&#039;t want Marines breaking down their doors putting  

guns to their families heads as they are tonight in Ramadi.

The UN or some other force is necessary to help stabilize 

the country. We are not  about to leave like Napolean from

Russia, but leave we must.

Worse than a crime, a blunder.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the US were to assure the Iraqis that Iraqi resources</p>
<p>and industries belonged to Iraqi&#8217;s it would go a ways to </p>
<p>quieting things down. We  are still sticking to the plan of </p>
<p>some laisez faire capitalist paradise. No Iraqi political</p>
<p>leader, besides some American whore, can accept that </p>
<p>concept. Just as difficult ,after our behavior, would be </p>
<p>the concept of US military bases.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re correct the Iraqis want safety. They want to go to </p>
<p>the store not worrying about being kidnapper or blown up.</p>
<p>They want electricity and water. They want their jobs. </p>
<p>Things they had pre-invasion.</p>
<p> They don&#8217;t want Marines breaking down their doors putting  </p>
<p>guns to their families heads as they are tonight in Ramadi.</p>
<p>The UN or some other force is necessary to help stabilize </p>
<p>the country. We are not  about to leave like Napolean from</p>
<p>Russia, but leave we must.</p>
<p>Worse than a crime, a blunder.</p>
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		<title>By: Garett</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/02/21/supporting-while-opposing/comment-page-1/#comment-2945</link>
		<dc:creator>Garett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 22:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi *waves* 

It would be nice to see US troops back with their families, but that isn&#039;t going to happen anytime soon.  While I strongly disagree with the entire invasion, it has happened.  Demanding an immediate withdrawal of troops, which are at this moment the only thing that stands between order and chaos, seems shortsighted.  You can claim all you want that the troops are victims of corporate greed, but that is a lot like throwing manure into a recruiting office.  It is pointless and doesn&#039;t do anything to solve the problem.

To get the troops home, the UN (or a trained replacement army) has to be convinced to take control of Iraq&#039;s peacekeeping.  This is something that the newly elected government of Iraq should do.  All the average Iraqi wants is a world that doesn&#039;t shake anymore.   Somewhere safe.  Most of them had that under Saddam Hussein and that is the reason most of the are angry with coalition troops.  They took their safety away.  You can say the coalition troops gave them freedom, but it is natural for people to want to safety (however illusionary) and they would give up just about anything (freedom for example) to get even the illusion of safety.  If you don&#039;t believe me, do a search on the Internet for something called the Patriot Act.

I&#039;m not saying that the UN will succeed where the US failed, it&#039;s just the US has become the representation of all their pain.  UN peacekeepers (or better, a trained Iraqi Army) represent hope that things will get better, that things will eventually return to normal.  Will it make a difference?  Probably not, but at least it gets more coalition troops home and relieves the financial burden from the US.

Then again, that&#039;s just my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi *waves* </p>
<p>It would be nice to see US troops back with their families, but that isn&#8217;t going to happen anytime soon.  While I strongly disagree with the entire invasion, it has happened.  Demanding an immediate withdrawal of troops, which are at this moment the only thing that stands between order and chaos, seems shortsighted.  You can claim all you want that the troops are victims of corporate greed, but that is a lot like throwing manure into a recruiting office.  It is pointless and doesn&#8217;t do anything to solve the problem.</p>
<p>To get the troops home, the UN (or a trained replacement army) has to be convinced to take control of Iraq&#8217;s peacekeeping.  This is something that the newly elected government of Iraq should do.  All the average Iraqi wants is a world that doesn&#8217;t shake anymore.   Somewhere safe.  Most of them had that under Saddam Hussein and that is the reason most of the are angry with coalition troops.  They took their safety away.  You can say the coalition troops gave them freedom, but it is natural for people to want to safety (however illusionary) and they would give up just about anything (freedom for example) to get even the illusion of safety.  If you don&#8217;t believe me, do a search on the Internet for something called the Patriot Act.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that the UN will succeed where the US failed, it&#8217;s just the US has become the representation of all their pain.  UN peacekeepers (or better, a trained Iraqi Army) represent hope that things will get better, that things will eventually return to normal.  Will it make a difference?  Probably not, but at least it gets more coalition troops home and relieves the financial burden from the US.</p>
<p>Then again, that&#8217;s just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/02/21/supporting-while-opposing/comment-page-1/#comment-2933</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 05:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You hit the nail on the head.

Americans were never going to get anything.

Americans are getting screwed.

This was always about &quot;privatizing&quot;. 

American multi-nationals are the ones to get.

&quot;In a scathing new report to Congress, Gen Stuart Bowen, the special inspector general for Iraqi reconstruction, said that while the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) was careful to monitor the spending of US taxpayers&#039; money in Iraq, it failed to provide proper oversight of projects paid for with Iraq&#039;s own funds.&quot; $9 Billion missing

This  a war about MONEY/Power.

We are over our heads, being played.

The troops are victims.





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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You hit the nail on the head.</p>
<p>Americans were never going to get anything.</p>
<p>Americans are getting screwed.</p>
<p>This was always about &#8220;privatizing&#8221;. </p>
<p>American multi-nationals are the ones to get.</p>
<p>&#8220;In a scathing new report to Congress, Gen Stuart Bowen, the special inspector general for Iraqi reconstruction, said that while the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) was careful to monitor the spending of US taxpayers&#8217; money in Iraq, it failed to provide proper oversight of projects paid for with Iraq&#8217;s own funds.&#8221; $9 Billion missing</p>
<p>This  a war about MONEY/Power.</p>
<p>We are over our heads, being played.</p>
<p>The troops are victims.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/02/21/supporting-while-opposing/comment-page-1/#comment-2932</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 04:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don&#039;t any U.S. companies have Iraqi oil contracts?  Could it be because the contracts went to Turkey and Canada?

Why have we forgiven Iraqi debt?  If this is a war for oil, we&#039;re getting screwed... because we gave them their war, and we&#039;re not getting any oil in return.

You call the troops &quot;cruel and brutal,&quot; and then advocate &quot;supporting&quot; them by bringing them home.  I think you just made my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t any U.S. companies have Iraqi oil contracts?  Could it be because the contracts went to Turkey and Canada?</p>
<p>Why have we forgiven Iraqi debt?  If this is a war for oil, we&#8217;re getting screwed&#8230; because we gave them their war, and we&#8217;re not getting any oil in return.</p>
<p>You call the troops &#8220;cruel and brutal,&#8221; and then advocate &#8220;supporting&#8221; them by bringing them home.  I think you just made my point.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/02/21/supporting-while-opposing/comment-page-1/#comment-2931</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 04:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The troops are F*cked, they are cannon fodder.

They are not there for WMD&#039;s, not for Saddam,

not for freedom, not for democracy. They are in 

Iraq to secure the huge pool of oil under the 

sands,and the rest of the Iraqi economy, under 

Order 39 of the Coalition Provisional Authority.

The troops find themselves not able to identify

their enemies, so every Iraqi is their enemy.

They are nervous, as all occupiers become,

 and have become cruel and brutal.

They are F*cked. The &quot;Mission&quot; is F*cked.

Support the troops by giving up the dream

of economically/politically colonizing Iraq and

 bringing them home.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The troops are F*cked, they are cannon fodder.</p>
<p>They are not there for WMD&#8217;s, not for Saddam,</p>
<p>not for freedom, not for democracy. They are in </p>
<p>Iraq to secure the huge pool of oil under the </p>
<p>sands,and the rest of the Iraqi economy, under </p>
<p>Order 39 of the Coalition Provisional Authority.</p>
<p>The troops find themselves not able to identify</p>
<p>their enemies, so every Iraqi is their enemy.</p>
<p>They are nervous, as all occupiers become,</p>
<p> and have become cruel and brutal.</p>
<p>They are F*cked. The &#8220;Mission&#8221; is F*cked.</p>
<p>Support the troops by giving up the dream</p>
<p>of economically/politically colonizing Iraq and</p>
<p> bringing them home.</p>
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