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	<description>Mark Jaquith&#039;s blog about capitalism, freedom, WordPress, the web, and personal topics</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/04/29/is-trackback-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-236704</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great wqaqatulic site and book, good work!</description>
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		<title>By: Vlad</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/04/29/is-trackback-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-236450</link>
		<dc:creator>Vlad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice wnuhofw site and guestbook!</description>
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		<title>By: plasticbag.org: Links for 2005-06-05</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/04/29/is-trackback-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-223443</link>
		<dc:creator>plasticbag.org: Links for 2005-06-05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] A really snotty response to my earlier content that Trackback might be dead in the water... My counter response - I use MTBlacklist, and have an up-to-date installation of MT. I don&#039;t find Wordpress attractive, and I don&#039;t have time to spend my life in an arms race with spammers. For the value I derive from Trackbacks, it&#039;s not worth the bother. [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] A really snotty response to my earlier content that Trackback might be dead in the water&#8230; My counter response &#8211; I use MTBlacklist, and have an up-to-date installation of MT. I don&#8217;t find WordPress attractive, and I don&#8217;t have time to spend my life in an arms race with spammers. For the value I derive from Trackbacks, it&#8217;s not worth the bother. [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: mrG</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/04/29/is-trackback-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-216233</link>
		<dc:creator>mrG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh ... thank you Stasigr et al for so clearly helping to prove my point :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh &#8230; thank you Stasigr et al for so clearly helping to prove my point <img src='http://s.txfx.net/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hot Links - Archives</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/04/29/is-trackback-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-11054</link>
		<dc:creator>Hot Links - Archives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2006 17:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] : microformats # &#160;copy [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Links for 2005-06-05</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/04/29/is-trackback-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-9516</link>
		<dc:creator>Links for 2005-06-05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] A really snotty response to my earlier content that Trackback might be dead in the water... My counter response - I use MTBlacklist, and have an up-to-date installation of MT. I don&#039;t find Wordpress attractive, and I don&#039;t have time to spend my life in an arms race with spammers. For the value I derive from Trackbacks, it&#039;s not worth the bother. [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] A really snotty response to my earlier content that Trackback might be dead in the water&#8230; My counter response &#8211; I use MTBlacklist, and have an up-to-date installation of MT. I don&#8217;t find WordPress attractive, and I don&#8217;t have time to spend my life in an arms race with spammers. For the value I derive from Trackbacks, it&#8217;s not worth the bother. [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Amit Gupta</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/04/29/is-trackback-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-6748</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit Gupta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2005 12:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what&#039;s the betting that he comes up next with &quot;Internet is Dead&quot; post? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s the betting that he comes up next with &#8220;Internet is Dead&#8221; post? <img src='http://s.txfx.net/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hillside Meditations</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/04/29/is-trackback-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-6409</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillside Meditations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2005 07:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Are Trackbacks Dead?&lt;/strong&gt;

Via Chetan CkunteÃ‚Â´ s blog and BlogaholicsI came upon this thread, apparently started by Tom Coates of plasticbag.org:
Ongoing is a discussion whether the trackback function in blogs is &quot;dead&quot;, meaning no longer usable because of trackback-spamming....</description>
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<p>Via Chetan CkunteÃ‚Â´ s blog and BlogaholicsI came upon this thread, apparently started by Tom Coates of plasticbag.org:<br />
Ongoing is a discussion whether the trackback function in blogs is &#8220;dead&#8221;, meaning no longer usable because of trackback-spamming&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/04/29/is-trackback-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-6379</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2005 16:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MT has a plugin that allows TB moderation. I had a few TB spams, but installed MT close, which shuts off TB &amp; comments on old posts, which is where you usually get the spam. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MT has a plugin that allows TB moderation. I had a few TB spams, but installed MT close, which shuts off TB &amp; comments on old posts, which is where you usually get the spam. </p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/04/29/is-trackback-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-6363</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2005 02:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, sorry you&#039;ve had such a bad experience with all this.  All I can tell you is that I have a system that&#039;s work, and that&#039;s been working for about four months now through more than one wave of trackback/comment spam that has driven other websites crazy.

Like I said before, its hard to argue with success.  Maybe something new will come along and my security measures won&#039;t work.  I guess I&#039;ll cross that bridge when I come to it.

Still don&#039;t see where anything I said was deserving of your rather condescending and spiteful response, but maybe your mommy didn&#039;t teach you any manners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, sorry you&#8217;ve had such a bad experience with all this.  All I can tell you is that I have a system that&#8217;s work, and that&#8217;s been working for about four months now through more than one wave of trackback/comment spam that has driven other websites crazy.</p>
<p>Like I said before, its hard to argue with success.  Maybe something new will come along and my security measures won&#8217;t work.  I guess I&#8217;ll cross that bridge when I come to it.</p>
<p>Still don&#8217;t see where anything I said was deserving of your rather condescending and spiteful response, but maybe your mommy didn&#8217;t teach you any manners.</p>
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		<title>By: mrG</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/04/29/is-trackback-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-6362</link>
		<dc:creator>mrG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2005 01:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, what I&#039;m saying is worse: I&#039;m saying that every time someone recommends that I can solve a highly intractable social problem by simply switching to some specific piece of software, I want to give them a lolly-pop.

and then whack them.

FWIW, I&#039;m on Drupal and with the spam-filtered TB, I also cut my spam counts to zero for a period of several weeks.  But that does not mean anything, dig?  You don&#039;t need a caustic ass to draw the &quot;Door is Unlocked&quot; arrow, the hole remains, and the spammers know that, and, according to independent articles in both the Register and on Wired, &lt;em&gt;the revenues from spam are so staggeringly high&lt;/em&gt; that the best you can get only bides some time.

If that bothers you, or even if it doesn&#039;t, makes no difference to me, but you&#039;re no more protected from TB spam by switching to WP than you&#039;re protected from AIDS by coitus interruptus.  So you can rest easy in your false security, it&#039;s a nice place to be, but I&#039;ve already had that experience of having my weekend ruined by being hit by multiple website link-spammers with new toys, or seeing my sites cached in google as Texas Hold-em hubs, and I just don&#039;t find watching my back 7x24 to be a particularly fun way of &quot;easy publishing online&quot;.

You do what you like, but despite how ever much I envy your comfy snugness, I&#039;m &lt;em&gt;still&lt;/em&gt; keeping the anon-public write tab switched off until there&#039;s some &lt;em&gt;real&lt;/em&gt; solutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, what I&#8217;m saying is worse: I&#8217;m saying that every time someone recommends that I can solve a highly intractable social problem by simply switching to some specific piece of software, I want to give them a lolly-pop.</p>
<p>and then whack them.</p>
<p>FWIW, I&#8217;m on Drupal and with the spam-filtered TB, I also cut my spam counts to zero for a period of several weeks.  But that does not mean anything, dig?  You don&#8217;t need a caustic ass to draw the &#8220;Door is Unlocked&#8221; arrow, the hole remains, and the spammers know that, and, according to independent articles in both the Register and on Wired, <em>the revenues from spam are so staggeringly high</em> that the best you can get only bides some time.</p>
<p>If that bothers you, or even if it doesn&#8217;t, makes no difference to me, but you&#8217;re no more protected from TB spam by switching to WP than you&#8217;re protected from AIDS by coitus interruptus.  So you can rest easy in your false security, it&#8217;s a nice place to be, but I&#8217;ve already had that experience of having my weekend ruined by being hit by multiple website link-spammers with new toys, or seeing my sites cached in google as Texas Hold-em hubs, and I just don&#8217;t find watching my back 7&#215;24 to be a particularly fun way of &#8220;easy publishing online&#8221;.</p>
<p>You do what you like, but despite how ever much I envy your comfy snugness, I&#8217;m <em>still</em> keeping the anon-public write tab switched off until there&#8217;s some <em>real</em> solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/04/29/is-trackback-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-6360</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you&#039;re saying, Mr. G, that I have been having spam problems but that I&#039;m too stupid to know?

Strange...considering that in the last month I&#039;ve had over 3,000 attempted spam comments/trackbacks (according to Spam Karma&#039;s count) with only one or two getting through.

I&#039;ll admit that I&#039;m no genius when it comes to the technical side of my blog (I have Mark for that), but its hard to argue with success.  I get an above average amount of traffic and an above average number of attempted spam comments/trackbacks, but the measures Mark has installed to stop them have been much more effective than Mark is letting on.  I do not &quot;keep my head above water,&quot; I simply don&#039;t have a problem.

But thanks for being a caustic ass about the whole thing.  Adds a lot to the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;re saying, Mr. G, that I have been having spam problems but that I&#8217;m too stupid to know?</p>
<p>Strange&#8230;considering that in the last month I&#8217;ve had over 3,000 attempted spam comments/trackbacks (according to Spam Karma&#8217;s count) with only one or two getting through.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll admit that I&#8217;m no genius when it comes to the technical side of my blog (I have Mark for that), but its hard to argue with success.  I get an above average amount of traffic and an above average number of attempted spam comments/trackbacks, but the measures Mark has installed to stop them have been much more effective than Mark is letting on.  I do not &#8220;keep my head above water,&#8221; I simply don&#8217;t have a problem.</p>
<p>But thanks for being a caustic ass about the whole thing.  Adds a lot to the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/04/29/is-trackback-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-6358</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the people complaining about blog spam are running Movable Type, and often a version of it that is 2 years old.  I tend to think that &lt;em&gt;they&lt;/em&gt; are the naive ones.  Rob&#039;s blog gets way more spam than mine does, but he manages to keep his head above the water using freely available tools.  There may be no silver bullet (I&#039;ve gone maybe 2 months at most without any spam), but there are some good solutions that don&#039;t take a guru to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the people complaining about blog spam are running Movable Type, and often a version of it that is 2 years old.  I tend to think that <em>they</em> are the naive ones.  Rob&#8217;s blog gets way more spam than mine does, but he manages to keep his head above the water using freely available tools.  There may be no silver bullet (I&#8217;ve gone maybe 2 months at most without any spam), but there are some good solutions that don&#8217;t take a guru to use.</p>
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		<title>By: mrG</title>
		<link>http://txfx.net/2005/04/29/is-trackback-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-6357</link>
		<dc:creator>mrG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so sorry, that last one was about &lt;em&gt;Rob&#039;s&lt;/em&gt; delightfully naive comment.  Mark, on the other hand, had some very good points, but still admits that the condom does not yet exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so sorry, that last one was about <em>Rob&#8217;s</em> delightfully naive comment.  Mark, on the other hand, had some very good points, but still admits that the condom does not yet exist.</p>
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		<title>By: mrG</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;ROTFL&lt;/em&gt; -- Mark, that is the most delightfully naive technical comment I&#039;ve heard since Wednesday!  Thank you for posting that.  It must be wonderful to live on your planet.

I&#039;m placing your advice right up there with the CTO who, when challenged on his 2 days to delivery timeline, told the room &quot;Oh, programming is &lt;em&gt;easy&lt;/em&gt;!  It&#039;s the &lt;em&gt;debugging&lt;/em&gt; that&#039;s hard.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>ROTFL</em> &#8212; Mark, that is the most delightfully naive technical comment I&#8217;ve heard since Wednesday!  Thank you for posting that.  It must be wonderful to live on your planet.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m placing your advice right up there with the CTO who, when challenged on his 2 days to delivery timeline, told the room &#8220;Oh, programming is <em>easy</em>!  It&#8217;s the <em>debugging</em> that&#8217;s hard.&#8221;</p>
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