Nevertheless, if my neighbor is caught driving a fertilizer truck bomb into an elementary school … I don’t really care about his ‘constitutional rights’. Same goes for a neighbor of mine who grew up in SoCal and ended up in Pakistan fighting for the enemy… if he is caught… I think it’s safe to assume he has given up any rights he may have had in the past. (*none of these things happened to me, the last one is real though.)

“The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.” (Article One, section nine).

You’re right, there has to be middle ground. But in my mind… that middle ground should not be allowed to get very big. I’ll read up on this a bit more so I can form a better opinion.

This is not the un-harnessed spying you portray it as.

It is constitutionally unharnessed. It is judicially unharnessed.

As for Democrats, the fact that they believe known terrorists brought from a military battle field should be afforded the same constitutional rights and civilian courts as any average Joe in America. 1) Freaks me out

That freaks me out too.

It also freaks me out that the Bush Administration has decided that even American citizens detained as terrorism suspects shall be denied habeas corpus rights.

Surely there is a middle ground between giving constitutional rights to foreign fighters and denying constitutional rights to American citizens.

legal status under certain conditions to Bush’s warrantless wiretapping of calls and e-mails between people on U.S. soil making calls or sending e-mails and those in other countries.

Under the measure, the president would be authorized to conduct such wiretaps if he:

Notifies the House and Senate intelligence committees and congressional leaders.

Believes an attack is imminent and later explains the reason and names the individuals and groups involved.

Renews his certification every 90 days.

Shockingly… normal. This is not the un-harnessed spying you portray it as. As for Democrats, the fact that they believe known terrorists brought from a military battle field should be afforded the same constitutional rights and civilian courts as any average Joe in America. 1) Freaks me out and 2) tells me that they have the same position they have always had… sit back don’t do anything let the bad things happen to us and then blame someone else. Never ever stick your head out unless it’s to fight for more handouts or to bash others ideas while having none of your own.

Both parties have an issue where they completely miss the boat. Actually, Democrats have two major issues… Terrorism and Immigration and Republicans just don’t get Immigration… I know why they don’t and thats what pisses me off. I also know why Democrats don’t get immigration and I’m not at all surprised by it.