Too easy
I just voted. I’ll include my votes at the end for any interested parties, but right now I’m more interested in the voting process. The security over at Sarasota County precinct 129 is horribly lax.
No one verified my identity.
Not by photo, not by signature. They have no idea if I am who I said I was.
I was asked for my last name, which I provided. As the volunteer flipped through the roll, I saw my name, and I said “there I am.” She asked for my address which was clearly printed next to my name in the roll. The volunteer even had her finger on the address, so I could easily tell what information she wanted. I dutifully read the address off the page, and she said “sign here,” and pointed to the wrong signature box. “I think I’ll sign in this one,” I said, correcting her. She didn’t notice. She handed me a piece of paper, which I handed to another person who directed me to a touchscreen voting machine. The machine appeared to function normally. Others weren’t so lucky. And none of us knows if the machine really worked, because its inner workings are secret.
I could easily go vote again. All I’d have to do is say “Smith,” point at the first unsigned male-name “Smith” box, read the address off the page when asked, and go along my merry way.
Shocking. Volunteers at voting centers remind me of most jury members. I voted absentee - which, oddly enough, seems more secure than your voting experience. At least I have to provide a return address (although I wonder about that).
Why the hell did they bring out the electronic voting machines? Of COURSE people had problems. Just think about the last time you went to the airport or the post office. Sure, there are plenty of automated machines, but 90% of the airport is terrified to use them. Personally, I like using automated machines. I use self check outs at grocery stores and automated ticket printers at the airport because I’m competent enough to make the effort a time-saver.
I don’t know, but I voted to switch Sarasota County to optical scan ballots. Those are the best. Initial paper record, less ambiguous than punchcards, and can be scanned electronically or manually reviewed.
Yeah, that’s what I used for the absentee ballot. Works like a charm, and there’s no question as to whom I voted for.
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Why do you feel that your identity needs to be verified by some means other than your physical presence? It’s not insecure. Here in the UK there is even less ID verification than that at the polls, and we have negligible fraud at paper ballots. We don’t have to sign, our name is simply checked against the list and marked off. There is far more concern about fraud through absentee ballots here in the UK.
How would you game this system? By going back and pretending to be someone else? There’s a reasonable chance the registrar would recognise you. The police might be called. Perhaps you would have more luck going around all of the polling stations in the district, and voting once at each one. In each, there’s a reasonable chance that the registrar would not be fooled by your “reading someone else’s address” act. Even if you were perfectly successful, what happens when the real Mr. Smith comes in to cast his vote? Uh, oh. Someone’s been pretending to be him, here comes the police investigation.
Even if you were really lucky, what have you achieved? You managed to cast half a dozen extra votes for your candidate. That’s not going to throw the election. In order to achieve anything you would need scores of people (at least) running around the constituency all casting multiple ballots. The chances of no-one noticing THAT are vanishingly small.
Absentee ballots are a huge risk, because they allow a constituent to prove how they voted, or simply pass the paper to someone else to vote for them. That allows votes to be bought.
(Congratulations on voting, by the way. Most of your countrymen don’t seem to think it’s worth the trouble.)
Because you need more than a warm-body check to eliminate fraud.
Yes, or going to different location and pretending to be other people. That way there’d be no danger of people recognizing me.
They’d probably investigate him, since I’d be long gone. There’s no way for them to trace it back to me, because they didn’t verify my identity in the first place. They’d probably tell Mr. Smith that he’s out of luck and turn him away.
In the 2004 election, Democrats paid someone in Ohio (paid him in drugs — nice) to register hundreds of fake voters. Personally, I couldn’t have done much, but someone could easily organize enough people to make a difference.
And yeah, absentee ballots are also a huge risk.
In any case, verification of signature and photo identification is the law in Florida. It’s required to reduce fraud.
It is worth noting that the non-checking of my ID may have been an exception. I know other people who voted at the same precinct and were checked for ID. So that’s some consolation.
Well it shows how much they don’t really care! In Australia its a little harder. You need to prove who you are, and you HAVE to vote. If you don’t vote you will be fined or goto jail.
Not quite. The NAACP National Voter Fund had a woman who was volunteering to register new voters. She hired a guy — 22-year-old Chad Staton — to register voters for her, paying him in crack. Said crackhead sat down and filled out 124 registration forms for Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy, Michael Jordan, and other fictional/famous names. A bunch of others all had Chad Staton’s name on them, over and over again. The signatures on the cards were all the same, and they were for the entirely wrong county. Even somebody with a room-temperature IQ would know that was fraud. He was arrested within a couple of days of turning in the forms.
“Democrats” didn’t pay somebody — an interest group got a volunteer who, in turn, paid some other guy to register people. Said crackhead, being a crackhead, tried to register a fictional character who would never be permitted to vote. He was arrested.
The system, as they say, works.
s/Democrats/a volunteer for a Democratic GOTV organization/but also:
s/works/worked in this instance/The NAACP National Voter Fund is a “Democratic GOTV organization” in the same sense that the NRA operates a “Republican GOTV organization.” I suspect that both are simply trying to get their supporters to vote, and I don’t think it’s any more fair to tag the NAACP as “Democratic” than it is to tag the NRA as “Republican.”
Er, not always. Every time I’ve voted, the way of verifying my identity is ye olde ‘What’s your name?’ thing, just like this.
“Er, not always. Every time I’ve voted, the way of verifying my identity is ye olde ‘What’s your name?’ thing, just like this.”
For example, in Poland people want to show your own identity card.
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