Comments on: Facebook’s bizarre definition of data ownership http://txfx.net/2009/02/26/facebooks-bizarre-definition-of-data-ownership/ Mark Jaquith's blog about capitalism, freedom, WordPress, the web, and personal topics Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:11:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Leif Harmsen http://txfx.net/2009/02/26/facebooks-bizarre-definition-of-data-ownership/comment-page-1/#comment-754221 Leif Harmsen Wed, 24 Nov 2010 03:03:53 +0000 http://txfx.net/?p=8954#comment-754221 There can be no "step in the right direction" because Facebook's "terms" aren't worth the virtual page they glow on. What does matter and supersedes everything else is their domain: facebook.com belongs entirely to Facebook, not to you or your friends or anyone else. Why is that? Because FB owns facebook.com, you do not, and they patently control everything at their own domain. Domain = Control = Ownership. It is not "your" profile on Facebook, it is Facebook's profile on you. FB encourages wishful thinking to the contrary with their fraudulent verbiage, Facebook parades it's familiar images of your "Friends" like endorsements or social bait. but at the end of the day inasmuch as you establish yourself on FB's website, FB owns and controls you. I choose not to subject myself to FB anymore than I would choose to holiday with wax dummies of my friends in North Korea. I own my own domain and properly establish my identity there where I can remain dignified and self-possessed, in control and responsible. I am quite capable of keeping my own database of contacts. Imagine if FB had owned Schindler's list? http://www.harmsen.net/shut_your_facebook.html There can be no “step in the right direction” because Facebook’s “terms” aren’t worth the virtual page they glow on. What does matter and supersedes everything else is their domain: facebook.com belongs entirely to Facebook, not to you or your friends or anyone else. Why is that? Because FB owns facebook.com, you do not, and they patently control everything at their own domain. Domain = Control = Ownership. It is not “your” profile on Facebook, it is Facebook’s profile on you. FB encourages wishful thinking to the contrary with their fraudulent verbiage, Facebook parades it’s familiar images of your “Friends” like endorsements or social bait. but at the end of the day inasmuch as you establish yourself on FB’s website, FB owns and controls you. I choose not to subject myself to FB anymore than I would choose to holiday with wax dummies of my friends in North Korea. I own my own domain and properly establish my identity there where I can remain dignified and self-possessed, in control and responsible. I am quite capable of keeping my own database of contacts. Imagine if FB had owned Schindler’s list?
http://www.harmsen.net/shut_your_facebook.html

]]> By: Van wie zijn onze gegevens? | Contentgirls http://txfx.net/2009/02/26/facebooks-bizarre-definition-of-data-ownership/comment-page-1/#comment-753307 Van wie zijn onze gegevens? | Contentgirls Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:36:59 +0000 http://txfx.net/?p=8954#comment-753307 [...] alle data op Facebook eigendom is van de originele eigenaar, dat zijn wij dus. Maar als je naar de developer terms of service kijkt om je data te exporteren naar een derde partij (zeg Hyves), dan wordt het plaatje gauw [...] [...] alle data op Facebook eigendom is van de originele eigenaar, dat zijn wij dus. Maar als je naar de developer terms of service kijkt om je data te exporteren naar een derde partij (zeg Hyves), dan wordt het plaatje gauw [...]

]]> By: Foxinni http://txfx.net/2009/02/26/facebooks-bizarre-definition-of-data-ownership/comment-page-1/#comment-688765 Foxinni Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:07:05 +0000 http://txfx.net/?p=8954#comment-688765 Right. It's just that the communication you talk of is content. Even more private than what you would do on say your public profile. Cutting back on facebook is a great idea either way. It has increased internet tunnel vision by a hundred. :( Right. It’s just that the communication you talk of is content. Even more private than what you would do on say your public profile.

Cutting back on facebook is a great idea either way. It has increased internet tunnel vision by a hundred. :(

]]> By: Mark http://txfx.net/2009/02/26/facebooks-bizarre-definition-of-data-ownership/comment-page-1/#comment-687488 Mark Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:51:50 +0000 http://txfx.net/?p=8954#comment-687488 <blockquote>Are you on Facebook and what would you say to someone when they are thinking of quiting (due to such exact privacy reasons..)?</blockquote> I am. But I don't really put much "content" up there. It's more of a communications tool for me. I won't be putting my photos up there, for instance, until their terms become more amicable. To you, I'd say give them a shot to make good on this new statement of principles.

Are you on Facebook and what would you say to someone when they are thinking of quiting (due to such exact privacy reasons..)?

I am. But I don’t really put much “content” up there. It’s more of a communications tool for me. I won’t be putting my photos up there, for instance, until their terms become more amicable.

To you, I’d say give them a shot to make good on this new statement of principles.

]]> By: Foxinni http://txfx.net/2009/02/26/facebooks-bizarre-definition-of-data-ownership/comment-page-1/#comment-686497 Foxinni Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:40:32 +0000 http://txfx.net/?p=8954#comment-686497 I love hearing dirty secrets about facebook. I have been thinking of disabling my account. If it just wasn't such a great connectivity tool, i would quit in a heart beat. Are you on Facebook and what would you say to someone when they are thinking of quiting (due to such exact privacy reasons..)? M I love hearing dirty secrets about facebook. I have been thinking of disabling my account. If it just wasn’t such a great connectivity tool, i would quit in a heart beat.

Are you on Facebook and what would you say to someone when they are thinking of quiting (due to such exact privacy reasons..)?

M

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